Thanks for your research. I am familar with Justin Martyr, but not the Dialogue with Trypho is it a work of Justin or from where does it come?
Again thanks,
Triple A
i would like to know what the wts teaches about, "the angel of god.
" who or what do the say this angel is?
i would like to know what the wts teaches about, "the angel of god.
" who or what do the say this angel is?
It surprises me that they relate the appearance to The Angel of God to being Jesus. That is very main stream Christian, but they do take away the diety aspect of these appearances.
as many know, i go visit my aunt some weekends.
she lives northwest of the city - in a small town.. saturday evening... i went outside to get something from my car.
most of the lights were off... and i looked up.. there were a billion - and one - stars (and planets) - in the sky.
JIm_TX, Thanks for sharing, reminds me of clear dark nights at sea. Triple A
i would like to know what the wts teaches about, "the angel of god.
" who or what do the say this angel is?
i would like to know what the wts teaches about, "the angel of god.
" who or what do the say this angel is?
I would like to know what the WTS teaches about, "The Angel of God." Who or what do the say this angel is?
i was reading a book on early church fathers and early christian doctrines.
i could not put the book down.
i noticed that some of the early church fathers "denounced" war frowned upon celebrating holidays and also "birthdays" some of their arguments sounded exactly like jw's and if you did not know you would have thought you were talking to some jw's.
Face it: unless you WERE a JW, you don't FULLY get it. You think you might, but you won't.
I agree, since I was not a JW, I will not fully know. But his site is helpful in providing insight for us non-JW. But I will continue to try and understand. Because if I can Just help one person, it will be worth it.
i was reading a book on early church fathers and early christian doctrines.
i could not put the book down.
i noticed that some of the early church fathers "denounced" war frowned upon celebrating holidays and also "birthdays" some of their arguments sounded exactly like jw's and if you did not know you would have thought you were talking to some jw's.
I do not know about Rob Bowman, but I have read both Walter Martin and Ron Rhodes. Both have stated that the WTS are an off shot of the Adventist. Charles Russell joned in the 1834 was the invisible return of Jesus and 1874 was to be Armageddon . When 1874 came and went 1874 was the invisible return and 1914 was to be Armageddon.
There are other groups that follow Russell's teach, like the Dawn Students ( a break off because of Rutherford). But none as powerful as the WTS.
not hating or directing this at anyone.
but if you guys hate the jw ways so much, why stick around the forum.
the internet is full of things to do.
jwb,
You should read the weven Studies in the Scripture. Ones that were printed before 1917. Compare them to what you are being taught today. Remember this is the teach on which Jesus choose the WTS for His only servant.
Ask your study person if Jesus is saying he is the Almighty in Revelation 1:8. Book seven of the Studies in the Scripture 1917ed Russel said that He was.
Triple A
not hating or directing this at anyone.
but if you guys hate the jw ways so much, why stick around the forum.
the internet is full of things to do.
I do not hate JWs. I do have my doubts about whose angels the WTS listens to and follows.
I come here because it helps me to understand what it is like to live in the organization. Not that I can fully know. But if I hope to be able to reach out to JWs it is helpful to understand what is going on in their lives.
I also read alot about the WTS reasoning process concerning doctrine. People that have gone through the organization seem to be able to point out the double talk that the Org spews out. Whether it is a change of old doctrine or how two current doctrines conflict.
Hate the individual, NO. Hate what controls them, YES.
i have been examing this doctrine for a very long time and i must admit it makes no sense at all.
when i talk to born-again christians about this doctrine the first place they always run to in the bible is john 2:19-22. the verse simple states: destroy this temple and in three days i will raise it up.
the jews thought he was talking about the temple building.
Narkissos,
I agree that flesh and blood is an expression of mortal mankind. But the only place we see flesh and BONES in the NT is when Jesus is talking about is reserrected body. So I ask why the use of bones. Does this give a distinction between mortal and immortal? I believe it does.
Triple A